Talk:Rabbit

Musculature

There is a grammatical error in this section that I would like to correct. Julietta Swift (talk) 08:55, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

As food...

There is a pop culture reference here that I think is worth mentioning. The South Sydney rugby league team, the Rabbitohs, is not named after rabbits (although that is unavoidably their symbol), but the people who sold hunted rabbits in the street in the afternoon during the Depression, who called "rabbit-oh" for anyone who may have been looking for cheap meat for dinner. Julietta Swift (talk) 09:00, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Rabbit

In the article on rabbits, there is no mention of what these animals eat. Nothing. Zero. An obsession with categorization-- check. How to tell a rabbit from a hare-- check. An explanation as to why a Belgian hare is really a rabbit-- alrighty then. But not a word about what they eat? WTF. You gotta have a section on what an animal eats-- not just on humans eating them. Even Encyclopaedia Brittanica got this right-- a century before Al Gore invented the internet. Someone needs to jump on this task right away. Hop to it before readers begin gnawing on raw cabbages, out of frustration. Or raw carrots-- yum. 172.87.18.207 (talk) 10:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

There used to be a section on the diet of rabbits, but no one ever added references. The whole thing got collapsed into Cecotrophy years ago. I added a little about the diet from textbook of rabbit medicine. There's some stuff later on about a myth of carrot rich diets as well. Reconrabbit 12:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Behaviors in pets

Most of the info under "Behaviors" such as binkies and flopping appeared only relevant to domestic rabbits, and it wasn't even relevant enough to appear in that article, so I deleted it. I'm willing to reinstate the info if there are sources other than pet lifestyle blogs to support it or references on wild animals demonstrating the behavior, but I'm not finding any so far. Reconrabbit 18:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Rabbit/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Reconrabbit (talk · contribs) 01:11, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: DoctorWhoFan91 (talk · contribs) 18:14, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

I'll take this one; article is kind of long, so expect initial comments in the next 48-72 hours. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 18:14, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

It's a long article, so I will go heading by heading.

Lead

• the ancestor of the world's hundreds of breeds[1] of domestic rabbit: sounds weird to be, consider rephrasing
• Sylvilagus includes 13 wild rabbit species: The Sylvilagus genus includes ...
• Why are these two genus mentioned specifically, and not the others? Explain in the para(are they the most numerous, the most common, the most ...?)
  • I rewrote that first paragraph to clarify why those genera mattered.

Terminology and etymology

• The word rabbit itself derives...[8]: Make this the first para, and complete the route; what does the root word mean
• derived ultimately from the Latin cuniculus: What does cuniculus mean/is derived from
• Are you sure the refs for litter(Mereck Vet Manual), or "colony or nest"(Collective Noun Page) reliable?
  • Etymology has been expanded. I have confidence in the authors of the Merck Vet Manual and the Collective Noun Page is drawing from James Lipton's book, which is about the best we can get for this type of information in my opinion.

Taxonomy

• some of the genera and species: some of the extant genera and species
• Can the images and list be presented better? To reduce the amount of scrolling required (maybe as a table, but that might be a bit complex to make)
  • I'm working on the table, shouldn't be a huge project.
    • @DoctorWhoFan91: I changed it from a gallery to a simple list and cladogram, how does it look? Should I add the extinct species? Reconrabbit 14:41, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

In culture

• of the figures.[151] The rabbits' role: Split the para here, and merge the corresponding para with the newly formed para
  • Done.

Folklore

• Change section title to "Mythology and Folklore"
• Remove the main article wikilink from here(if you want, merge from that article's folklore section to here, instead of the opposite)
• Add the Easter bunny and just write mentioned above or something like that
• The rabbit often appears in folklore as the trickster archetype as he uses his cunning to outwit his enemies.: Only example given is Central Africa, so just merge with that
• The rabbit as ... a popular cartoon character.[176]: Makes these two paras the last paras
• Make the current two last paras and the two paras mentioned above under a new section, such as modern times or something (choose a good subheading)
• The Br'er rabbit is both folklore and modern, so mention in both with the diff refs, Disney under modern and A-A under folklore
• The mix of bullet points and paras would look weird, consider choosing one type and make it coherent
• Images would go under folklore, not Modern times, if it ends up confusing

Review 1/3

• I'll review the other headings later. The article is very well written for such a complex topic, well done. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 08:09, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

• @Reconrabbit: F, I keep forgetting to ping. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 17:38, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

  I saw the changes on my watchlist, no problem. I'm working on things as I can. I will admit that in my initial run through improving the article, terminology was one section I didn't really touch upon. Reconrabbit 18:02, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

As food and clothing

• falling to 0.03 kg (0.07 lb) in Japan. The figure for the United States was 0.14 kg (0.31 lb) per capita.: listing the three highest and then lowest seems jarring, reword; I don't think listing the data for the US is necessary
• Not required, but can the last two paras be expanded, they seem small.
  • I removed the unremarkable production values and expanded the paragraphs mentioned from the related articles.

Ecology

• retina that both: retina where both
• {{The doe (mother) ... feed the kits.[114]}}: Weirdly worded, and cited by a weird-ish source?
• Rabbits are prey animals and are therefore constantly aware of their surroundings. For instance, in Mediterranean Europe, rabbits are the main prey of red foxes, badgers, and Iberian lynxes.[110]: Mention they are preys, the animals that prey on them, and then their awareness, seems non-sequitur-ish right now
• A 2003 study found that "the (so-called) Chinese rabbits were introduced from Europe", and that "Genetic diversity in Chinese rabbits was very low".[122]: rephrase, jumps from South America to China arbitarily(Maybe "a 2003 study on rabbits in China ...)

Biology

• . This way they can be distinguished from rodents.[18]: , a manner in which they differ from rodents
• These bones are created ... called the foot.: confusing, wikilink the bone names, or explain more?
• Rabbits stay just on their toes when moving; this is called digitigrade locomotion.: Already mentioned, remove
• The force put out by the hind limbs is contributed by both the structural anatomy of the fusion tibia and fibula, and muscular features.[54]: Explain(might relate to point 2)
• In Ears, just remove the subheadings, just separate paras for each third of ear is good enough
• Thermoregulation is the process that an organism uses to maintain an optimal body temperature independent of external conditions.[70] This process is carried: Thermoregulation is carried (it's already wikilinked, so no need to explain)
• Rest of it, I'll review later

Review 2/3

@Reconrabbit: Added more remarks, only need to remark on half of the Biology section later(plus spot-check). DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 10:23, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Biology

• These compounds include fructose, citric acid, minerals, and a uniquely high amount of catalase.: Does this help in reproduction or just in general?
• Meanwhile, IGKC1 shows high amino acid divergence between domesticated types and ferals derived from them.[107] This can be as high as 40%.[107]: Importance/Effect of this?
• It has spread to the point that it is considered endemic in the western United States.: Still?(Update if necesaary)

References

• Ref 6- just remove it, there is an additional ref?
• Ref-172(native-languages.org)- is this reliable?
• All refs via EBSCOhost: if these are books, just cite the books- they aren't accesible either way
  • I removed the URLs since they won't be accessible to most users but kept the "via". Ref 6 has been removed in favor of the Lipton work. Native-languages.org is a non-profit written by a subject matter expert, which is as good as I could find for this particular info. I expect a lot of this is oral history, and it's nice to have a website that presents this freely.

Overall

@Reconrabbit: That's the end of my review; ping when you are done replying/editing, I'll do the spot-check at the end. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 13:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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