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Term was created by a conservative

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Mr. Leo Strauss (September 20, 1899 – October 18, 1973) created the term, he was a conservative and not pro the freedom of avg person. Let the truth be known so we comprehend why the term is often used to lambaste liberals and others who seek to end racism, classism, sexism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:DDC0:DF00:8D84:B105:5E76:F813 (talk) 05:09, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is unhelpful to the page. Also, please sign your comments. Thank you! Gravestep (talk) 14:23, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Putin examples

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The "Invocations of the fallacy" lists illustrative cases where public figures have been specifically accused of constructing an argument which uses a form of reductio ad Hitlerum. Including examples of public figures who have drawn Hitler comparisons without drawing any such criticism is WP:OR ("any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to advance a position not advanced by the sources"), however obvious the reductio might personally seem to Wikipedia editors. --McGeddon (talk) 14:14, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have just deleted the Beck content for this reason. 92.10.80.23 (talk) 03:54, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hitlerum or Hitlerem?

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Assuming Hitler is declined as a third declension noun, shouldn't they be called reductiones ad Hitlerem? RoseOfVarda (talk) 17:44, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with you. A proper noun that ends in consonant is always declined as a third-declension noun. Strauss, however, didn´t care about Latin grammar; apparently he used the second declension in order to establish a parallel with the similar logic phrase reductio ad absurdum.---Darius (talk) 23:31, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Some second declension masculine nouns end in "-er". Given these exceptions (puer, -i, ager, -i, cancer, -i, magister, -i, Alexander, -i), it seems clear to me that Hitler would decline into Hitleri and its subsequent Hitlerum. Dark Looon (talk) 11:04, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I might be wrong according to ChatGPT:
```While it is possible to Latinize the name "Hitler" by adding a Latin suffix, such as "-us" or "-ius", it is important to note that there is no standard or recognized Latin declension for the name "Hitler". As such, the Latinized forms "Hitleri" and "Hitlerum" may not necessarily be considered correct or appropriate by experts in the Latin language.```
ChatGPT also notes that:
```Proper nouns are a category of words that include names of people, places, and things that are unique and specific. Proper nouns do not typically follow the same grammatical rules as common nouns, which are a category of words that refer to people, places, and things in general. Latin proper nouns, like proper nouns in other languages, often do not decline in the same way as Latin common nouns.
Comparing a non-Latin proper noun like "Hitler" to Latin common nouns like "magister," "puer," and "cancer" is not an accurate or useful comparison because they are fundamentally different types of words. It would be more appropriate to compare "Hitler" to other non-Latin proper nouns or to create a Latinized form of "Hitler" that follows established conventions for Latinizing non-Latin names.``` Dark Looon (talk) 12:19, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Nazism and contemporary liberalism both promote healthy living is as meaningless a finding"

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This quote taken out of context is in general a wrong statement. I can readily imagine the context where this comparison makes sense: (A) Start talking that liberalism is evil. (B) But why this evil is so attractive? (C) Because it lures people with promotion of healthy living, just like the statute of Hitlerjugend.

In other way "reductio ad hitlerum" here would amount to proving that healthy living is bad. But apparently this is not what was meant.

Therefore either our definition of RaH is wrong/incomplete. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:58, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Can you define "healthy living", and provide an example of how "liberalism" promotes this? Valgrus Thunderaxe (talk) 16:38, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I clicked a couple ext links in the article and see it is written fundamentally diverging from sources given and must be rewritten. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:01, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Reductios ad hitlerum aren't supposed to make sense. TFD (talk) 16:52, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No Examples

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How about Trump? 14.2.181.206 (talk) 02:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]