Talk:Hope (Klaatu album)

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"Some consider this album one of the earliest story-telling concept albums in history, as it pre-dates The Wall, a story-telling concept album by Pink Floyd."

Umm . . . actually no. The story-telling concept rock already had at least a decade-long history by 1977, and was already something of a cliche at the time Klaatu did theirs.

Give 5 examples. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.126.59.28 (talk) 02:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Not that you are around anymore but; The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here and virtually every album by The Moody Blues until the 1980's to name but a few. MarnetteD | Talk 06:05, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

The Wall? I was given that LP as a birthday present when it was brand new. Played it once; what a load of bubblegum pop.

In addition to examples cited above, there was S.F. Sorrow by The Pretty Things, which may or may not (accounts seem to differ) have inspired Pete Townshend to write Tommy, Quadrophenia, and the aborted Lifehouse, which survives as Who's Next.

Felona e Sorona by Le Orme, anyone?

Cliché has a pejorative connotation that I would not use, since we loved this LP when it was new, but the principle was well established.

Tales from Topographic Oceans based on the Autobiography of a Yogi, par exemple.

Varlaam (talk) 05:11, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I feel someone should point out that all three of MarnetteD's examples are incorrect; none of them are story-telling concept albums (most of The Moody Blues albums aren't even concept albums at all), and you can confirm this with the articles for those albums here on Wikipedia. Varlaam gives much more accurate examples.

I'll throw onto the pile The Crazy World of Arthur Brown (1968) by The Crazy World of Arthur Brown, Journey to the Centre of the Eye (1971) and Remember the Future (1974) by Nektar, Olias of Sunhillow (1976) by Jon Anderson, Mr. Mick (1976) by Stackridge, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (1975) by Genesis, and A Time Before This (1970) by Julian's Treatment. Martin IIIa (talk) 19:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC}

Dang it Betacommandbot just because no one had this page on there watch list does not mean that the album cover did not meet wikipolicy. This is why you were eventually banned. Hope you do better on your return. MarnetteD | Talk 06:05, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Precedents

The band was still anonymous and inaccessible when this record was released. Interviews, they did not exist.
So there were questions floating around.
The one I remember the most speculation about was whether "Loneliest Creature" had been influenced by "Loneliest Person" from S. F. Sorrow (1968) by The Pretty Things. S. F. Sorrow was in print in Canada (on Motown Records!) in a double with Parachute, although it was not really well known.
The musical styles of the two songs are not terribly close, but there is a thematic equivalence, and they both conclude the storylines of their respective concept LPs.

A second question concerns "The Politzanian National Anthem". It's a catchy tune with Fascist lyrics. Not unlike Die Fahne hoch (Horst Wessel Song) which you can see Hermann Goering and other top Nazis singing in the big finale to Triumph des Willens.
Is that intentional somehow?
Varlaam (talk) 05:40, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

That initial mouse squeak

In the '70s, everyone agreed that that was a mouse squeak.
That is reasonable since there is a mouse on the cover of the album, just as there was a mouse on the cover of their previous album.
Right? This was never a controversial issue.
Varlaam (talk) 05:48, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

And their first album ends with the mouse squeak. I just checked the end of "Little Neutrino" at YouTube.

Yep, mouse squeak. Varlaam (talk) 06:08, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

And don't the covers of their later albums also feature the mouse? It's the Klaatu trademark.

It's like looking for Hitchcock in a Hitchcock movie. He is always there somewhere.

The mouse is always there.

Varlaam (talk) 06:24, 12 July 2011 (UTC)