Talk:Politician

Tags understate the situation

Needs a gut rewrite. Fails on so many levels right now is just a good example of a bad article. First you need to make clear the difference between a politician and someone exercising authority on another basis, such as a monarch or military commander. Second the fine gradations of the political class and their activities and functions as such (distinct from the socially useful ones, the executed office) should form the body. Finally, as ever, the core concept needs to be made clear in the lede. A politician is a person who must obtain a consensus in a political body. The non-politician executing the same function does not. Lycurgus (talk) 05:06, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

:It is problematic to define the scope of an article on this topic. I have half a mind to propose merger with Politics - if anyone can point the way to making "Politician" a separate worthwhile encyclopedic article, please state: Noyster (talk), 14:30, 24 September 2015 (UTC) These remarks no longer apply: thanks to Rjensen for making this a worthwhile article: Noyster (talk), 10:03, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

RfC opened: Should current and recent candidates for US President be called "politicians"?

Should current and recent candidates in the 2016 US Presidential election include politician among their notable occupations in the lead of their biographical articles, even if the candidate eschews the term? Please participate in a Request for Comment on this question. General Ization ^Talk 14:48, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

The most important characterization of a politician left out?

As long as I live I was under the presumption that a politician, at least in a democratic society, is a representative of the people by whom he/she was chosen.

Perhaps a correction of the wiki entry is neccessary? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpaxel (talk • contribs) 12:42, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

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Points to consider in the article "Politicians"

The article includes important starting points that indicate valuable information about politicians in terms of defining the term politicians, clarifying their tasks, and the elements that help them and support their messages through media platforms. However, it lacks organization, up-to-date references, and some information with examples that address some important points to enhance the article and make it more comprehensive.

1- In my opinion, I believe that the term politician needs to be re-formulated to be more comprehensive and clarify the role of politicians in policymaking as a member of the body politic at multiple levels, whether national or international.

2- Rhetoric and Media, this section is very important to explain how rhetoric and media platforms work together for the benefit of politicians for greater communication and effectiveness. However, this section needs more organization, especially in the sequence of development of media platforms and their role in shaping politicians’ messages overtime . It also needs to point out the challenges that politicians face in the context of the development of media, such as misinformation and rumors, as this will negatively affect their political work and communication with the people.

3- In my opinion, the sentence "Once elected, a politician must deal with the government employees and workers who work for him" needs to be reworded because the sentence could be interpreted negatively. Perhaps use "A politician must work with the government employees and workers to carry out their responsibilities.

4- Giving examples of some sections would also strengthen the argument and broaden the understanding, for example, in relation to government job reform, it is important to give examples of some reform regulations such as the Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act of 1883, the Mexican government introduced the Federal Law on Administrative Responsibilities of Public Officials (2002), and the Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act of 2012 in the United States of America.

5-I think there is some unimportant information that we can omit, such as “Many politicians have the ability to remember thousands of names and faces. US Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton were famous for their memory.”[19][20] Since this obvious advantage is not important and is far from the qualifications and skills associated with political work, there is no need to mention it because it tends to be biased, especially after mentioning the names of only two presidents.

Nadin-WSU (talk) 01:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC)