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The 'ish'

Where did the 'ish' come from? Yiddish? To me, 'ish' seems to connote 'like'. Does the 'ish' in 'Jewish' have any implication of 'Jew-like'? Sorry for this sheer ignorance. 212.219.239.103 (talk) 15:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC) R.E.D.[reply]

I don't know were the -ish comes from but it's probably similar to the Ir-ish or Scott-ish. (Nazrael (talk) 06:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Earliest Reference to the Jews

Why are the earliest references to the word "Jew" said to be Esther 2:5 and 8:17? Are 2Kings 16:6, 2Chronicles 32:18 and Jeremiah 34:9 not earlier? Jeremiah wrote earlier than the Book of Esther, and even if some scholars think that the texts of these three other references were written after Esther, it may still be helpful to record the fact that the Bible uses the word Jew of an earlier period of history. As the article currently stands, it is easy to think that the first reference to the Jews in the Bible is in the Book of Esther, which is not so. Ergateesuk (talk) 19:11, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have been requesting some information on a different page re: Jews [[1]]. I am unclear on how a conflagration of the term Jew, and Judean or Israelite has occurred; and the evolution of the use of the word Jew for religious belief specifically. Msheflin (talk) 20:33, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not a single source

This article doesn't cite a single source. What evidence is there for any of the claims in this article, expecially regatding the section on Usage_by_non-Jews? This section in particular is meaningless without any sources.75.119.225.203 (talk) 16:51, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Use by non-Jews

Comment moved here from article:

The part of the article labled "use by non-Jews" seems very biased as it is assuming that the claim by the Rastafarian is false without providing any evidence to back this staetement up. I can also, from this bias assume that the assertion is made by a counterclaiment. Under the heading it also states that said Rastifarian movement uses the term Israelite thus negating the heading "use by non-jews". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.188.201.113 (talk) 12:30, 1 October 2010

Etymology of the word 'Jew'

Can anyone please provide sources as to when the Ivri word 'Yehudah' and it's proper Ivri derivatives 'Yehudi', 'Yehudim' etc. became 'Jew'? I've been taught that no dialect of the Ivri language - including the modernized version with the Aramaic script overlaying the Ivri letter pronunciations - has any letter or combination of letters that produce the 'JAY' pronunciation.

When did the term 'Jew' come into existence? What people/culture/language is first documented as having created/used this derivative? What time period did this word first come into being? Sources??

Thanks.

67.82.44.72 (talk) 03:17, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why the concern specifically with the word "Jew"? It would seem to be a problem for the many Biblical words including "Jerusalem", "Japheth", "Jezebel", "Jeremiah", "Jonathan", "Joshua", and even "Jesus". How did those words appear in English? Jayjg ^(talk) 02:09, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ioudaios

Those who edit on this article may want to check out Ioudaios which an editor has done on the Greek term (from Septuagint-Philo etc.). It seems to have some reasonable content, but might duplicate what is in the Second Temple section here? In ictu oculi (talk) 06:59, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RefImprove

Nearly every sentence in this article is lacking a source citation. Of the three sources cited, two are dubious. This article reads like original research. 71.35.116.253 (talk) 04:21, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Modern use - Perception of offensiveness

In #2.1 Modern use - Perception of offensiveness The quote starting "It is widely recognized that the attributive use of the noun Jew" is sourced "According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition (2000)". Is that accurate? The passage is identical to that in The American Heritage Guide to Contemporary Usage and Style, 2005, p.269 ^[1] and ^[2] and ^[3]. Reference 5, ostensibly to the source leads to a definition of the verb identical to that in the AHD's 5th edition, 2019: ^[4]. If the AHD reference is relevant anyway the 2019 edition is preferable. Mcljlm (talk) 14:35, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

Redirect to Jews

Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Lina211_{Follow your dreams} 01:47, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:WORDISSUBJECT Among Us for POTUS (talk) 02:12, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://zourpri.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/the-american-heritage-guide-to-contemporary-usage-and-style-2005.pdf

[2] ttps://books.google.co.il/books?id=dK9fDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA269&dq=%22Jewish+people+or+persons+of+Jewish+background+may+in+itself+cause+offense+for+seeming+to+imply+that+Jew+has+a+negative+connotation+when+used+as+a+noun%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiK-s_E15rgAhVILBoKHa4yA70Q6wEIMjAB#v=onepage&q=%22Jewish%20people%20or%20persons%20of%20Jewish%20background%20may%20in%20itself%20cause%20offense%20for%20seeming%20to%20imply%20that%20Jew%20has%20a%20negative%20connotation%20when%20used%20as%20a%20noun%22&f=false

[3] ttps://books.google.co.il/books?id=xb6ie6PqYhwC&pg=PA269&dq=%22Jewish+people+or+persons+of+Jewish+background+may+in+itself+cause+offense+for+seeming+to+imply+that+Jew+has+a+negative+connotation+when+used+as+a+noun%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiK-s_E15rgAhVILBoKHa4yA70Q6wEINzAC#v=onepage&q=%22Jewish%20people%20or%20persons%20of%20Jewish%20background%20may%20in%20itself%20cause%20offense%20for%20seeming%20to%20imply%20that%20Jew%20has%20a%20negative%20connotation%20when%20used%20as%20a%20noun%22&f=false

[4] ttps://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=jew

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